tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3634628224045926034.post7513813970303989152..comments2023-08-29T01:27:13.772-07:00Comments on Magpie's Asymmetric Warfare: The Doctrine of Fascism: Epilogue.Magpiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07528637318288802178noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3634628224045926034.post-42476564799849056932017-04-19T11:49:14.221-07:002017-04-19T11:49:14.221-07:00@Hedlund
search said blog for "1873"
M...@Hedlund<br /><br /><i>search said blog for "1873"</i><br /><br />My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? :-)<br /><br />I don't know if a shower would be enough to cleanse me.<br /><br />----------<br /><br />Seriously now, no worries! I'll have a look. Thanks for the tip.Magpiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07528637318288802178noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3634628224045926034.post-86680596687351700782017-04-19T07:46:02.910-07:002017-04-19T07:46:02.910-07:00As it happens, I have indeed seen that chart.
I h...As it happens, <a href="https://twitter.com/cenochron/status/796376012753747968" rel="nofollow">I have indeed seen that chart.</a><br /><br />I haven't studied that depression in depth, unfortunately, but you're right to take note of it in relation to the labor aristocracy, given its roots in the mid-to-late 19th century. The first section of the Cope book linked above provides a fair bit of context to that end.<br /><br />As far as free quant stuff goes, I'm afraid I can't be of much help. I know of a certain bloviating ignoramus with a blog who transcribed figures such as the ones you're seeking from a handful of sources, and that might be a good starting point (search said blog for "1873"). The works cited might be of use, too, but they're almost certainly locked behind paywalls.<br /><br />Other than that, your best bet is probably a public (or university) library, as inconvenient as that may be. Sorry I can't offer more than that.Hedlundnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3634628224045926034.post-37253535786344328262017-04-18T20:12:47.497-07:002017-04-18T20:12:47.497-07:00Hi Hedlund,
Glad to hear from you. Thanks for the...Hi Hedlund,<br /><br />Glad to hear from you. Thanks for the kind words and the links. I'm good, thanks. Hope you're fine, too.<br /><br />I, too, have been thinking lately about the aristocracy of labour. Have you seen Branko Milanovic's elephant chart?<br /><br />What has really aroused my interest, however, is the Long Depression of 1873-1896. It was around that time that Bernstein and Kautsky were exiled and ended up in Britain, where Bernstein became BFFE with the Fabians. About that time the Populist Party in the US (strongly influenced by Georgists) reached its apogee and declare themselves mortal enemies of Marxists. They also made it to Britain: you guessed, the Fabians.<br /><br />I haven't been able to find freely available quantitative data on the Long Depression (unemployment, GDP, wages), particularly for Germany and Britain. I was wondering, can you point me in that direction?Magpiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07528637318288802178noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3634628224045926034.post-56480797242874556702017-04-18T07:11:14.788-07:002017-04-18T07:11:14.788-07:00Good stuff as ever.
In my own readings on fascism...Good stuff as ever.<br /><br />In my own readings on fascism & sundry, I've come across some materials I think you might find of interest.<br /><br />A rather (undeservingly) obscure 1978 text entitled <a href="https://www.prisoncensorship.info/archive/etext/contemp/whitemyths/edwards/index.html#pfrontcover" rel="nofollow"><i>Labor Aristocracy, Mass Base of Social Democracy</i></a> analyzes, well, exactly what its title says. While fascism is not the primary focus of the book, it does, I think, do a good job of pointing out how social democracy and fascism effectively form a political duality & continuum. <br /><br />Another, more recent book that draws a similar conclusion from a study of labor aristocracy is <i><a href="https://www.prisoncensorship.info/archive/books/Economics/DividedWorldDividedClass_ZakCope.pdf" rel="nofollow">Divided World, Divided Class</a></i> (which also includes some groundbreaking work on aggregate value transfer from the third world to the first via unequal exchange).<br /><br />Also worth mentioning is <i><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/communism/comments/1ixayq/pdf_of_ishay_landas_the_apprentices_sorcerer/" rel="nofollow">The Apprentice's Sorcerer</a></i>, which considers fascism a result of the interplay of the internal contradictions of liberalism, rather than something outside of or otherwise opposed to it.<br /><br />I feel like the common thread here is too important to overstate.<br /><br />(Also, speaking of Petacci, turns out she's the lyrical subject of <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5hvHEBLNpI" rel="nofollow">this Scott Walker song</a>)<br /><br />Hope you're well.Hedlundnoreply@blogger.com