tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3634628224045926034.post8855995413805236799..comments2023-08-29T01:27:13.772-07:00Comments on Magpie's Asymmetric Warfare: The Doctrine of Fascism: Fascism vs Marxism.Magpiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07528637318288802178noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3634628224045926034.post-21940677472920211292017-04-07T18:19:40.311-07:002017-04-07T18:19:40.311-07:00Thanks for your comment.
Maybe I'm being bias...Thanks for your comment.<br /><br />Maybe I'm being biased or unfair but, frankly, I don't think so.<br /><br />You are, of course, right to point that Mussolini may have ordered or at least inspired the murder of Matteoti (who was a reformist/revisionist or social democrat, if you like). Further, I'm sure fascists did not limit their violence to communists, workers, and trade unionists. They may well have targeted others, including centre and centre-right people.<br /><br />It's also true that Mussolini proscribed all Italian parties, not just orthodox Marxists.<br /><br />It wasn't so much ideology, however, that made Matteoti dangerous to Mussolini, but his denunciations of electoral fraud. His death was not a matter of principle, but of political convenience: had Matteoti played ball with the fascists, he may well have been spared.<br /><br />Mussolini's attitude towards social democracy (or towards other parties) was not as clearly hostile as it was against orthodox, Marxist socialism.<br /><br />The other side of the coin is that those other parties were not as consistently hostile to Fascism as orthodox Marxism was, either. There were Italian equivalents to Churchill, Mises, and Keynes.<br /><br />----------<br /><br />Other than Matteoti's case, do you find any other instance of bias or unfairness?<br /><br />----------<br /><br />But perhaps what you dislike is my disapproval of reformism and revisionism or social democracy.<br /><br />When I denounce those things I'm not implying that they automatically turn people into fascists. Nope.<br /><br />But I believe reformism/revisionism or social democracy make it easier for reformists/revisionists or social democrats to degenerate into fascists. It makes them more susceptible to infection, as it were. That seems to be a bridge much farther for most orthodox Marxists (not for all, by any means).Magpiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07528637318288802178noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3634628224045926034.post-40702052530876630552017-04-07T14:42:38.954-07:002017-04-07T14:42:38.954-07:00You are being biased. Mussolini also suppressed So...You are being biased. Mussolini also suppressed Social Democracy! He was involved in the assassination of Giacomo Matteoti, a social democrat, in 1924.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3634628224045926034.post-48127538999219626382017-04-07T11:11:15.290-07:002017-04-07T11:11:15.290-07:00Thanks for the link, Nigel.
I knew about Flynn&#...Thanks for the link, Nigel. <br /><br />I knew about Flynn's book: the Mises website has an extended excerpt from it, containing that passage you quoted; but I haven't read it.<br /><br />It seems like an interesting read, though. Magpiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07528637318288802178noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3634628224045926034.post-26385982942314507482017-04-07T05:36:41.258-07:002017-04-07T05:36:41.258-07:00To many the pursuit of the hated Red justified the...To many the pursuit of the hated Red justified the elements of violence in the episode. To others the imperious need of meeting the challenge of labor justified the cudgels. Mussolini was all right as long as he played along with the democratic powers. "I do not deny," said Mr. Churchill as late as December 1940, in a speech in the House, "that he is a very great man. But he became a criminal when he attacked England." Mussolini's crime lay not in all the oppressions he had committed upon his own people, not in his trampling down ofliberty in Italy, in attacking Ethiopia or Spain, but in attacking England."<br /><br />John T. Flynn in <i>As We Go Marching</i><br />https://mises.org/library/we-go-marching<br /><br />Nigel OAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com